One unemployed older American’s miserable mortgage refinance saga


Jeffrey Koconis of WI, who was laid off after 33 years of service to one company, sent us his email correspondence with the bank that holds his mortgage.

Earlier this year,  Jeffrey tried to refinance his mortgage and lower his payments to make them more affordable, but his request was denied.  He is now depleting his IRA to keep his mortgage current and pay his living expenses.

Jeffrey is extremely frustrated by his bank’s lack of responsiveness and compassion.

Take a look:

I am submitting this email thread to illustrate an example of what is really happening
to us in our 50′s who have been unceremoniously thrown on the trash heap by
corporate America and our Government.  I don’t expect anything to change, my
experience is one of many, but while we may be an aging part of the population,
our voice needs to be heard.

From: Jeffrey Koconis
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:10 PM
To: Flynn, Philip
Subject: Customer Concern

Mr. Flynn, my name is Jeffrey Koconis, and I have been an Associated Bank
customer for about 15 years.  I have my checking account, mortgage, IRA, credit
card, and until recently, money market with your company.  I, like many
Americans, lost my job in 2009 after working 33 loyal years for a national
corporation, who determined I was expendable in their cost saving restructuring.

I have worked my whole life, paid taxes, raised a family and never took a dime
from anyone.  My income was slashed dramatically, and now I must survive on
a pension of $1,880 per month.  I have been able to make all my payments with
help from my savings which will be running out in the next few months.  Of course
my life style is now watching every penny.  I believed I could find work to help
me make my payments until I qualify for social security benefits at age 62, which is
about 2.5 years from now, when I would be able to afford all my bills.  I can’t get
companies to even respond, unless it’s an automated rejection response to my applications,
let alone be invited to an interview.  Age discrimination is alive and well.

The reason I’m explaining this to you is I applied for a refinance deal your company
offered which would have significantly reduced my mortgage payment, but of course
I was denied as my debt to income ratio was too high.  The incompetent manager of the
branch I worked with didn’t even know of any other program that I could pursue, I had
to explain to her about federal programs available.  You might want to check on your training
in the field.

I was then approached regarding a possible modification of my loan through Fannie Mae,
who holds the mortgage.  Well, to no surprise by me, I didn’t qualify for that either.  The
only advice I get is to try and sell my home.  That certainly is not what I prefer to do, and
cannot fathom how the system would rather I lose money by selling at a loss instead of
helping me avoid that, or more likely foreclosure.  Why wouldn’t I just foreclose then as I
really don’t care about my credit score at that point, I can’t qualify for any kind of loan now
with an outstanding credit score.

I understand other banks actually do care about their customers and are trying to help them get
through these very real, and tough economic times.  Instead of turning their backs on customers
like me they are indeed helping through individual modifications to avoid foreclosures.  I simply
cannot understand why your position is to just wash your hands of this, we are real people, not
numbers.  If you and your company would look beyond your ‘standard operating procedures’ for once,
and recognize what you are doing to people like me is not only just plain wrong, but unpatriotic as well.

I know you could help me if you really wanted to, at much less risk than what you are now accepting.
I say again, I have no motivation whatsoever to sell my home at a loss, and will likely let it go into
foreclosure.  If you can live with that, good for you, you probably never had to worry about losing your
home or stop doing anything but paying for necessities.

I hope you take my message seriously, I haven’t even spoke about not being able to afford medical
insurance or going to the doctor, when’s the last time you didn’t go to the doctor when you should
have because you couldn’t justify the expense?  I realize I’m likely speaking to deaf ears but needed
you to know what’s going on in the real world of us people who don’t have it so good right now, and nobody
really gives a damn.

Regards, Jeffrey Koconis

On Mar 31, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Flynn, Philip wrote:

Mr.  Koconis,

I will look into your situation when I return to my office tomorrow. I am personally sorry for the situation you are in and will see if the Bank can help.  I would add that I will ignore the personal insults you included in your message.

Phil Flynn

From: Jeffrey Koconis
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:30 PM
To: Flynn, Philip
Subject: Re: Customer Concern

I apologize of course, please know I am a very frustrated man right now.  I really
did not expect a response to be frank.  Thank you at least for listening.

Mr. Koconis,

No problem. I am having our mortgage people research your situation and we will be back to you early next week.

Phil Flynn

Philip B. Flynn
President & Chief Executive Officer
Associated Banc-Corp
1200 Hansen Road – MS 8000
Green Bay, WI 54304

From: Jeffrey Koconis
Date: April 1, 2011 4:29:04 PM CDT
To: “Flynn, Philip”
Subject: Re: Customer Concern

Thank you, it’s appreciated.

Mr. Koconis,

It’s no help but I’m sorry we don’t have any options to help your situation.

Phil Flynn

Comments

The Snarky Boomer said:

I too am a now 60, but at 59 pink slipped Boomer. I started my blog back in July of 2011 to reach out to other pink slipped Boomers. I have a lot on my blog that may be of help to some - http://boomersberg.com/how-to-retire-without-fort-knox-as-your-retirement-fund/ Also is a link library to sites that could be helpful. My husband and I did the reverse mortgage deal and I have my RV paid for. May end up living in it. I really love RVing, but if your health is not good, that becomes a poor option. I started my blog, thinking of how Eskimo legend states that the old eskimo's are set adrift on an iceberg with a small ration of food- exactly what I felt like and still do, but mentally I am coming out of the dark pit my mind was in.

M. Castleberry said:

I am in the same situation also. My husband and I have a small business that has almost come to a hault, directly related to the economy. We have almost all equity in our property and can't refinance . What does that tell you? I am talking about 30 years of blood, sweat and tears in this property. If we lose it, we have nothing else. Trying to sell, but there are no buyers. This government does not care. They want to own everything we have and control us all. I feel there is no hope left.

Jeffrey Koconis said:

I appreciate your thoughtful comments, I have found harboring ill-will doesn't suit me, or help me pursue my future, which I now embrace with the excitement of a child again. My best to all who have suffered from this all too real, and continuing depression, I choose to be thankful for what I have, and can still be, I hope you can too. There's still so much to do, and the time is short.

K. Rostad said:

Jeffrey, I am very sorry to read of the problems you are facing. I also checked out about refinancing in 2005, when my husband's unemployment was nearly gone and was told that we had to have a certain level of income to refinance even with good credit history. My substitute teaching pay wasn't enough to qualify for a refinance without my husband's former income. After some research, I found that the banks can't loan to people with certain levels of earnings to credit ratios or the banks eventually go under themselves. They are audited and might become one of the many banks that get listed each Friday as closed due to inadequate debt to asset ratios. I also felt betrayed by the bank to which we had been so faithful in making payments. We then sold our home and built smaller in a less expensive area doing ALL the work ourselves using discounted building supplies. One of our children and family are building a mini home on a trailer bed paying cash for all parts to avoid having a mortgage. This is an extremely affordable alternative. They can be purchased fully completed. If you haven't checked out mini-homes, you'll find it a very interesting subject by looking it up in one of the search engines such as Google. God bless you as you work through this difficult time. K. Rostad

Susan Hawkins said:

I sympathize w/ you. I am in the same predicament never been unemployed in my life I am 59 and having difficulty procuring a new job. I truly believe it is age discrimination! I am at a loss as to my situation. BOA lost my refinance paperwork three different times charged me penalties for being late with my mortgage, added the penalties totalling $20,000.00 to my mortgage. I am totally disgusted w/ them.

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